What is the benefit of saying "radical extremist" as opposed to "Islamic extremi

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  1. dianetrotter profile image61
    dianetrotterposted 9 years ago

    What is the benefit of saying "radical extremist" as opposed to "Islamic extremist?"

    Is it less offense to Muslims to hear "extremist" instead of "Islamic terrorist?"  Does debate over what to call it add fuel to the fire?

  2. joshcthomas profile image59
    joshcthomasposted 9 years ago

    Radical extremist is a more broad term. A radical extremist can target anyone that is willing to do anything for their cause - which can be anything.

    As for an Islamic extremist, that's more narrow and focused on people of the Islamic faith that is willing to do anything for their religion.

    You can't correctly say both within the same context.

  3. cjhunsinger profile image62
    cjhunsingerposted 9 years ago

    Is it beneficial to say that one has cancer, but fail to recognize what type or where?

    1. tsadjatko profile image65
      tsadjatkoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, if you want to hide your head in the sand and pretend you don't have cancer.

  4. KU37 profile image65
    KU37posted 9 years ago

    The US President has been criticized recently for continuing to use the past US President's phrasing and choice of words.  Talking heads (some of them highly respected) on TV in the US have started to claim that the President is being somehow dishonest when he uses the term "radical Islam".  They're jumping through all sorts of hoops to try to imply that people should simply say "Islam".  Diane has a good question that is worth considering for people who read and write and think.  I think the debate about words will add fuel to the fire if you are determined to debate with a closed mind.

    1. dianetrotter profile image61
      dianetrotterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Several Muslim commentators on CNN say that it doesn't matter which term you use.  One  said terrorists will always find one excuse or another to blame the US.  I thought the distinction was made to keep Muslims from being targeted for who they are.

    2. KU37 profile image65
      KU37posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not to be overly "PC", but it you are going to be writing and thinking about the exact right words to use, realize that those words reflect who you are. If you are incapable of using a capital M when spelling Mohammed, people will judge you for that.

    3. celafoe profile image54
      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The only ones that get capitals are Jesus abd God.  There is no other religion deserving my respect.     Judge me as you wish but i will not honor those not worthy of honor.

    4. fpherj48 profile image59
      fpherj48posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I don't lower myself to even print the name,much capitalize it  Do we capitalize illiterate pedophile?  No, we don't. nor do I capitalize muslim. Just the words RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST SAVAGES. Only GOD judges, KU37  You're concerned with people??

    5. KU37 profile image65
      KU37posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      My parents brought me up with values.  I'll mention two of them.  If you really have to insult a whole group of people, do it in private.  Also, it's not polite to ignore people.

    6. celafoe profile image54
      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      fpherj48 - good job.   Mus-slimes do not deserve even the little recognition we have to give them to expose how EVIL those sons of satan are, but we must wake up, expose and eliminate them  mo-ham-ed is spawn of satan as are his followers

  5. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

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    It is more politically correct to say radical extremist.  There are people who contend that Islamic extremist is an extremely prejudicial misnomer that singles out Muslim believers.  They maintain that many people associate extremist &/or terrorist with Muslims only.

    1. KU37 profile image65
      KU37posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What's up with that photo?  I had to read your comment three times before I could figure out if I agreed with you.

    2. Ericdierker profile image46
      Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Please help me if you know. What are the current Christian or Buddhist terrorist groups that are actively committing acts of terrorism? Any other religion will do.

    3. KU37 profile image65
      KU37posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      All I'm saying is that the photo hijacked my amygdala, and it took quite a number seconds for my frontal cortex to override.

  6. CrescentSkies profile image63
    CrescentSkiesposted 9 years ago

    Don't radical and extremist basically mean similar things? So you'd be saying radical radical, or extremist extremist.

  7. tsadjatko profile image65
    tsadjatkoposted 9 years ago

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    This aversion to calling this Islamic terrorism exactly what it is, saying "Islamic Terrorism" or linking terrorism in any way with the religion of Islam is purely a disingenuous, PC policy of the present administration & I'll explain why it is dishonest.

    First why won’t the President say Islamic extremism or radical Islam?

    Ben Stein said President Barack Obama refuses to call terrorists, like ISIS and al Qaeda, “Islamic” because of his friendship and Chicago political history with Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam.

    (CNN)President Barack Obama once again refused to label the fight against terrorism as a war on radical Islam or any kind of "religious war," insisting that such labels hurt efforts to root out radical ideologies in Muslim communities.

    Valerie Jarrett explains why Obama won’t say “Islamic” terrorism: there are other kinds of terrorism, too!

    Obama's position is best expressed by a document which dates back to 2008; a year before he became president. That document is called 'Words that Work and Words that Don't: A Guide for Counterterrorism Communication' which can be found on the website of The Investigative Project on Terrorism. 'Words that Work,' produced by the State Department's Counterterrorism Communications Center, found that Islam and terrorism are not linked. So that's official! Islamism or militant Islam and terrorism are not linked either. There is absolutely no connection whatsoever between Islam, in any of its forms, and terrorism. This is thought control. It's all really about words; not about realities or actions. Specifically, the phrase 'Islamic radicalism' has been erased from much -- or all! -- American governmental discourse. And if the words no longer exist, then surely the realities can't exist either -- at least not according to the postmodern logic of the American Government.

    All that said, If as our present gov't insists terrorists have nothing to do with Islam, why do the prisoners at Gitmo get a Qur'an, they point arrows to Mecca every where around the camp so that the detainees know where to pray. They are issued prayer oil, prayer beads, prayer caps, prayer masks. They get — five times a day they get to call to prayer where they get 20 minutes of uninterrupted time. Why did we bury Bin Laden following traditional Islamic procedures?

    I'll tell you why

    Our President, blessed be his resignation, is nothing but a liar & should win the lie of the year award for 2015 if this lie wasn't so PC.

    1. dianetrotter profile image61
      dianetrotterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Tsad!  Do you think Islam will try to isolate ISIS since the barbaric killing of the Jordanian pilot.  It is incomprehensible that those creeps would stand around calmly, watching him die.

    2. tsadjatko profile image65
      tsadjatkoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What is sad(not tsad;-)is that Jordan had to wait for this end to take action.The day they captured the pilot even a child could tell you how this was going to endThat day should have marked an unending assault by Muslim nations likeJordanTurkey

 
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